I shot my best group ever with a T/C Encore. I owned a bunch of them but never switched Barrels. The Triumph is a much better option for strictly a ML by far in my opinion. The problem with people today is, they think what they own is the best. And that doesn't really help the industry at all. All ML companies need to make some improvements. I own a lot of different brands of muzzleloader and I can find lagitimate things wrong. But when people praise them, nothing will change. The ultimate ML is a good example. No improvements over the years, and old school thinking. One of the worst muzzleloaders to own today. But an easy ML to update, but you gotta have the right people to do it. The accuracy is already there, the rest is simple with the right people. CVA has done very well, and they got a lot of room to make better. But I don't think they will. I think they want to keep things at a low cost and sale volume. Not a bad way to think, and I think the new guns are a lot safer. But that's just my opinion. Knight wants to sale quality and not volume. The problem they have is, they have no one to maintain the quality. That's an easy fix, but who knows what they will do. I know there customer service gets pretty beat up online. Glad I haven't needed to deal with that. But I mostly shoot Disc Elites which are pretty darn simple.