My first deer rifle was a japanese sniper rifle, 6.5 cal, that my uncle bought back from WW2, only ammo i could get for it at the time were full metal jackets, would shoot right through a deer. then i moved up to a winchester, 38-40 cal, held 14 shells, but it would drop them out to 100 yards. first buck i shot was 8 pointer, using my brothers 30-06, i was 12 at the time.