Originally Posted by
zrexpilot
you are absolutely correct, i personnaly dont think most people should be taking shots at animals probably past 300 yds and those with more expierience past 500 yds, but if we want to compare the two, the creed comes out on top in every aspect of the .308 at a 1000 yds, and the 308 set the standard for 1000 yd match
Okay, you obviously missed my point about TERMINAL BALLISTICS there. I'm not talking about shooters abilities. I'm talking about the cartridges capabilities. Downrange energy just is not there for shots past 500 yards with the Creed. Period. Plain point and simple. For it to even be CLOSE to having the same energy at 1000 yards as say a .308WIN, you would have to stuff a 140gr bullet in it, taking up valuable powder space and sacrificing MV. In a bolt gun you could have a little more run out according to MAG space but I can tell you right off the bat you WON'T have that MAG space in an AR. Comparing the Creed to a .308WIN in terminal ballistics is tantamount to comparing my .243WIN to my 7mm.08 at 500 yards! I can take 2 or 3 of my .243's out to 800 yards banging the gong with alarming regularity. But that in no way means I should try to take a whitetail at 800 yards!! Hitting the target is one thing. Having the energy to ethically take an animal is a whole other ball game.