Okay another question, one I probably already know the answer to...Do you reload or know anyone that does? If not, then the Creed wouldn't be the best cartridge choice for your needs. Factory ammo isn't really all that plentiful. As well as the Creed would REALLY benefit from some loving at the reloaders bench. Especially in a bolt gun. My recommendation would be the 7mm.08. Factory ammo is readily available in most locals and, in my lowly opinion, is probably the best whitetail deer cartridge on the market today for ranges out to 400 yards.