Originally Posted by
Nomercy448
Zrex - Ridgerunner is not wrong. There's more than one road which leads to Rome.
22-250 Remington lineage:
250-3000 Savage --> 22-250 Remington
6.5 Creedmoor Lineage:
250-3000 Savage --> 300 Savage --> 30 TC --> 6.5 Creedmoor
So not surprisingly, the 6.5 Creedmoor is easily formed by necking up and fire forming its "great uncle" - the 22-250 Rem.
By and large, I enjoy the 6.5 C for what it is - a cheap to shoot, low recoil, high BC, moderate velocity, long-range TARGET capable cartridge. I think it's PERFECT for those guys who want to bang 3-4MOA steel at 1,000yrds then hunt deer at 600yrds and feel good about long range shooting.
Those guys who really kill game at ELR realize its shortcomings.
Regardless of what I might personally believe about the PRS/6.5/tactical trend, I'm tickled pink to see so many new folks buying new rifles and learning marksmanship principles. While Admiral Yamamoto never actually said it, I strongly believe in the principle General MacArthur's historian Gordon Prange conveyed in his fictional quote, "[Japan] cannot invade the Mainland United States. There would be a rifle hiding behind every blade of grass," which was a principle shared by President Theodore Roosevelt back in 1901 when he signed the NBPRP, under which in 1903 the DCM established the CMP, and the same principle which lead to the formation of the NRA in 1871 to develop a common national foundation of marksmanship, still a driving principle of the NRA Training Division. And of course, a principle shared by the Founding Fathers in drafting the Bill of Rights. Any reason an American citizen learns fundamental marksmanship skills is a good reason.
i dont see how it can be based on the 22-250 case, they share nothing in common, the 250 is a tapered case and the creed is not and the shoulder angle is different, the creed is more like an ackley, but it is what it is, i think its probably the best factory chambered short action cartridge.
the 250 and 22-250 literally have the same case dimension the creeds not even close. the 300 and the 250 also share nothing in common. the only thing they share is the case head size, maybe im just nit picking, the 250 is the parent case of the 22-250 they share identical specs, the 22-250 is not the creeds parent case, the 30 tc is, and i have no idea what its parent case is, you could easily say a 30-06 , or 308 or 300 savage as they have have the same case head size but thats it.
the 22-250 has a case capacity of 44.6 gr
the creed has a case capacity of 53 gr
i stand buy what i said the creed is not based on the 22-250 case