I'm of the class that believes it's impossible to completely, totally, 100% eliminate ALL scent. A buddy bought a bunch of the scent-loc stuff & was clad head to toe with it. The previous night we had a big cast iron tub of chili, and that next morning on the way to drop people off close to their stands, my buddy with the scent loc outfit had gas-REAL BAD. All I know is the scent loc clothing never even cut back or slowed down the odor! There are ways to minimize it however. To begin with, I don't don my actual hunting clothes until I get plumb off or away from the truck or 4 wheeler, then open the garbage bag with various cover scents I collect such as some fresh soil, some pine or cedar branch shavings, regular doe pee (fresh as possible and NOT in heat), a apple sliced real thin, and anything else I can think of, then put clothes in on top of it including the boots I'll have on. I'll take a full body/hair bath in water containing nothing other than a couple cups of apple cider vinegar. The vinegar smell fades plumb away to nothing in about 20 minutes but keeps bacteria from living on you making sweat stink for HOURS. I still use the wind to my advantage regardless of all other conditions. I DON'T use permanent stands for that reason, and the fact the deer learn them & can tell if somebody is in them & shy away from that area. It's my firm opinion that when trying to eliminate/cover every single bit of scent possible, it reduces the amount or how strong the scent is, making the deer think the hunter is quite a bit further away than they actually are, thus not getting plumb alarmed. I remember 1 morning I walked a buddy to his stand, showing him where it was, then went on towards my stand wearing my homemade gillie suit and all the cover/elimination scent methods I outlined above, but also the farmer's cattle were out when we got there so we had cow poo/pee on our boots from getting them in for him, so it must have helped a lot as after I dropped him off I still heard somebody walking behind me. I played along with it quite a distance, steadily getting more pissed that he didn't stay at the place I told him to with 3 major trails converging right there, and even the nerve to follow me & screw my hunting too! I finally turned around and there was a decent 6 point I had been turning down about 8-10' behind me. My buddy had witnessed the whole thing, the buck would have his nose to the ground, looking up at me & curling his upper lip up, then repeating the steps, gradually getting closer to me the whole time. That just goes to prove you CAN fool them, but there are no shortcuts to doing it right!