I have several Swifts and I know what the end result would be. Leaves some pretty nasty holes on 'yotes and fox. To each their own. Makes no never mind. And on the Hornet, I mainly load 45grn Speer Spitzers. I also load some ballistic tips. I guess I like to keep it simple and close. That's why I shoot pistol when I can. I have inadvertently popped some in the shoulder with the Hornet and it was no need to use the knife on the front half.