Hoppes #9 is a gun cleaner? I thought it was a REAL mans cologne!!!
I personally use Hoppes for most of my general bore cleaning and Dewy rods. I have a rack that I hang them in when not in use in my shop. Handle up at top. When I am going to get serious such as on my bench guns, I use Butchs Bore Shine and back it up with Shooters Choice. Whether it works better or not, just me. I coat the barrel with a soaked patch, let sit for a bit, then run a Stainless brush for 5 passes, depending on how many rounds have been down the barrel since last cleaning or not been cleaned. Then nylon after that.