That's a good point Mudderchuck. I haven't found it yet, as I don't want to trample all over the place. If I get time on a day before a good rain, I've planned on checking it out more. Found a few small rubs, but not his. Very small and low to the ground. He'd just break these off and move on, lol. I killed a 200+# 6 point, old guy last year. He utterly destroyed that place. Shredded and broke everything he touched. Took 3/4 of the season to nail him. He came in on me at 15 yards and bedded in thicket. Couldn't see any of him. 2nd round with a grunt and here he came. 8 yards and done.