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Old 09-27-2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mando
Hi super_hunt54,

I've already posted a link to the felony murder rule. Here is California Penal Code Section 197 verbatim:

Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in
any of the following cases
:

1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a
felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,
2. When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person,
against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or
surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends
and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter
the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any
person therein; or,
3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a
wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such
person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to
commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent
danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the
person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant
or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have
endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was
committed; or,
4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and
means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in
lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving
the peace.

CA statutory law protects civilians equally as police officers when it comes to using deadly force.

super_hunt54, instead of using the logical fallacy of argumentum ad hominem, refute facts I've posted. I'm good with Socratic debate when the objective is fleshing out knowledge.

This is the US Supreme Court controlling case defining police office use of deadly force: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...71/1/case.html

Best of luck to you
And where in all that does it give a civilian ANY protection whatsoever against ACCIDENTAL INJURY OR DEATH of a bystander? That was what we were talking about. NOT the shooting of a perp. Run and gun, spray and pray, suppressive fire, whatever vernacular you wish to use is NOT an accepted method in public. Plain and simple. Civilians are left open to both monetary as well a criminal actions.

You are bringing a very old saying to my mind, "those who can't do or have never done, TEACH"! Mando, you keep telling me to read a copy of some book. Why would I need to? I've LIVED through more firefights than I care to even think about. And I have never in my life injured an innocent civilian in any conflicts. The method you are preaching is dangerous to ANYONE around the area. I wouldn't want some mothers death on my mind the rest of my life because I was runnin and gunnin without thought for innocent lives. Just look at the city of Chicago at all those innocent women and children that have been shot by your "trained" thugs. Guess what method they use?? Spray and pray!!! Get your head out of those books Mando because real life conflicts are VERY different when going through them!
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