Yeah I'm with Flags and Alsa on that one. Elk can be some seriously strange critters. I, like Flag's statement, have been in areas where they don't EVER shut up and give you a derned headache from all the bugling. And then other times Ill see bulls all over the place and not a bugle to be heard. That's over MANY MANY MANY moons of hunting Elk. You just never know with them critters. It's like they have a mind of their own or something