Okay folks, I' m relying on you here. The answers you give me will dictate whats under the tree this Christmas, so don' t put any pressure on yourselves. Thanks for all the info I' m getting in here by the way.

Okay- myself. I want a 12 gauge. Doesn' t matter to me particularly whether its a Mossberg, Remington, Winchester...., just need a good gun for turkey hunting. Probably won' t do any other kind of hunting for the next year or two, except maybe some bird hunting of some sort (other than the king of all birds). Don' t want to spend a " ton" of money, but need a good reliable gun. What would you folks suggest?

Secondly, I have a twelve year-old that is learning along with me. I' m going to move him real slow through all this as long as his interest continues. He' s a typical kid for his age. He has completed a hunter safety course as he wanted to do it, plus I' ve taught him plenty about gun safety. I' m hearing a lot of suggestions for a .410 for him. But, I think he can easily handle a 20 gauge. Again, decent gun, but I don' t want it made of gold or anything. I need a couple of guns I can get out and hunt in the weather with. For him, what would you suggest??

Okay... I' ll let you all off the hook. I can' t promise I' ll use your advice. ha ha