OK boys it has been fun but the small time barbs thrown at each other need to stop. I read through everything and don't feel it all warrants anything other than me issuing a general warning providing it stops here. You both like to post and have made some good contributions to the hunting/ shooting threads. I remember having to deal with a similar issue between you two a while ago. My suggestion...which in my opinion is a good one is to take a break and then continue to post but not at each other. The issue was brought up by the OP and has been generally agreed upon through all the posts that it is a useful rest but probably more marketed towards a casual shooter. I think both of you allowed it to get to where it is right now so if there is a continuance both will be affected. If it ends... no harm no foul. Why don't you both step up to the proud line and shake hands and move on. I know if I were involved I would take that suggestion.