1847, give it to em good & hard. Then, hit em again. Those are some tough, tough critters!
I'm hoping for Elk #10 this year & all w/ MLs. I always use 290 gr. Barne's T-EZ and 120 grs. BH 209. Most of the time, I punch the whirling saw blade of a bullet right through em up to 180 yds. OUCH!