Well took the .50 cal hawkins out and this time made up patches with Moosemilk thing cut at muzz..
I saw big difference in seating the roundball to start.These were dry patch material..at 25 yards groups were good at 60/70 grains of 3 f..

only problem was burn holes thru patches at 70 grs of 3 f but not 60 grs..
Put a bore button behind the patch at 70 grs and no burn hole thru patches..

Question why did 70 grs of 3f burn hole thru patches..
Is using bore button ok with 70 grs....

I think the ringed bore spot is not affecting anything so far ..That is good ...

So getting there and very happy with Moosemilk with grinding oil and cut at muzz I can see a difference in groups..

next out too 50 yards..Question how high should the poi be at 50 yards I am up 5 inchs high at 50 and about 2 inchs at 25 yards..
I think thats high for buck hunting only out to around 80 yards max?Should I bring that down after I get my charge way it shoots best..60/70 grs not going to 80 grains cant stand kick/smoke over 70 grains..lol...