I may try the Gameking bullets from Sierra. I am anxious to try the Nosler Accu-bon also. Layne Simpson thinkls they may be one of the best all around bullets to come out in a while. He thinks From pronhorn to Grizzly in the same rifle, they are the way to go. He usually have a pretty good hold of these things. At least he is open to learning something new. Some of those guys are not.