Originally Posted by
8mm/06
I'm curious to know what owners of AR15 platforms (5.56) are using and/or recommending for an optic to be used for all around plinking and ringing steel at 200 meters.
So, I bolded your usage plans above to highlight what they mean to me in terms of optic selection, below...
Plinking = generally larger targets, meaning lower demand for accuracy, slow to moderate fire at short to moderate range, often firing not supported. Optic Selection: lower price, mid-range to low range magnification.
Ringing Steel = larger targets for a given range, meaning less demand for accuracy, slow to moderate fire rate, typically supported or prone fire. Optic Selection: Mid-range magnification.
200 Meters = relatively short range, but long enough to generally require supported shooting position. Parallax issue is less critical/prevalent. Optic Selection: Mid-range magnification, doesn't necessarily need parallax correction.
So...
If I tally that up:
1) I'd advise against iron sights or a solo red dot sight - the precision just isn't there. An 8" steel gong at 200m is only ~4MOA, which means a normal red dot will nearly fully cover the target = not good for reliable hits. The front sight in iron sights typically covers about 10MOA with 2-5MOA drift for the front sight in the rear sight, so similarly, drifting by a few MOA with irons is very easy.
2) The exception to the above is a magnified red dot sight, or a red dot sight with an added magnifier. Probably not gonna get many of these in the $400 or less ballpark, however.
3) A mid-range variable zoom scope would be my recommendation. Pick up a Bushnell Elite, Nikon Prostaff, or Leupold VX-2 3-9x40mm and you'll be fine. No need to spend extra for parallax adjustment, no need to go any higher than 3-9x or 3.5-10x, maybe 4-12x if you want. Even a fixed 4x would be fine for banging steel at 200yrds.
Originally Posted by
8mm/06
All suggestions are welcome as I have never owned an AR15 before (my build is almost done). Extrememly interested in suggestions that include optics you are currently using, and why you find it to be so useful to you.
Thanks in advance.
Most of my AR's have different applications from your own, so what I have on mine probably isn't very relevant for you. I have short range shooters with iron sights and/or red dots and I have magnified red dots on longer range shooters, but most of my AR's have scopes on top. But I'm not generally very satisfied with hitting a 2-4MOA steel gong - I'd much rather put a sub-moa group in the middle of a gong or paper target - so I put a little more optic on top of mine. I also do most of my shooting well past 200yrds, so my optic has to be versatile enough to reach mid to long range without inducing parallax errors.
I do have 2 AR's right now with what I'd say are suitable for what you're needing, even though the optics are a lot cheaper than you're looking at (and they're not good scopes either). One wears a 3-9x40mm Bushnell AR, junk scope, but it was only $150 and I needed a temporary scope for this upper. The other wears a Nikon Buckmaster 4-12x40mm, also not great, but also only $150 when I bought it and only a temporary solution, since I shoot this one most often at night with a red-dot sight. My other AR's wear red dots (trijicon RMR, Burris FastFire, Eotech 512), iron sights, or higher magnification scopes like 2.5-16x50mm, 4.5-14x50, 6-18x40, 6-24x44, 4.5-30x50mm, etc all of which have adjustable objectives or side focus, and most of which cost a lot more than $400.