Well as for the Rem 710. I' ve been using one for about 3 years now and have killed everything that I have shot at with it. Now it' s pattern isn' t as tight as others particularly with Core Lockt Express rounds but I ' m within 3" at 100 yds and that suits me just fine. But you do need a quality scope (I switched the Bushnell for a Leupold VX-I) and some practice. In my experince the equipment is only as good as the operator. The 710 is an extremely inexpensive rifle that in the right hands can put em down! Gary