Totally off subject but finally picked up a gun I've been looking for a long time. Savage model 24D series P, .22lr over 20 gauge, will be putting a vortex red dot on it, should be the ticket for squirrels, will keep a couple OO buck in my pocket in case I jump Bambi or Bambi's mother! Got a killer deal on it at a local pawn shop. Just had to brag to people I don't have to explain everything to.