I saw these in the Kestone country store magazine. these are the lightest climbers I' ve seen. they fit trees 8" to 24"
baby brute lite-- weighs 11 lbs- platform 18" x27" weight limit 250 lbs( for small hunters)

Ledgen Brute lite- weighs 14 lbs- 19" x29" - weight limit 300 lbs. got my eye on that one.

super brute- weighs 17.5 lbs- 21" x29" - weight limit- 350lbs.
the seat is a sling type seat like summits, but it has no cushion except the back rest. if I get one, I' ve got a summit air cushion seat that I' ll put on it.
that 14 lbs sounds awful good to my bad back.[&o]