Hummer, you do realize he is testing these bullets with a HUNTING type MUZZLELOADER don't you? Most of us on here wouldn't shoot game past 150 yards with our gear. Some of us will take that out to 200 on a nice quiet day without wind but not bloody likely. And not many, if any, of us would waste the powder and bullet attempting 500-600 yards with a MLer. A couple of guys here shoot at 400 at PAPER with their Ultimates.