Ridge runner thanks for that I'll give it a try, I just didn't fancy shooting them being compressed, I'm not a target shooter only a hunter and fire hundreds of rounds a year so just trying to save a bit and get a good accurate round not push things to the limit, just now I use rws 130grain factory rounds and there's plenty case room and the bullets are very accurate so just didn't understand why the case needed to be packed with 4831, just want to find a nice load see how it performs and stick to it safely.

Blackelk I'll load another one up tomorrow and see but I couldn't hear any movement in the case when I done it I think the bullet was seated at 3.240