yeah i think you strayed off course in this particular thread although twist rates are interesting and we should spend some time in the future talking about this subject again after i do some looking into the subject. i'm excited on my builds and i have picked out some light scroll work that will be done on the pistol. the barrel is made the wood which is a curly maple grade 5-6 is on the way and all the parts from tow shipped last week so we are soon to start on the build. ron will completely build the stock from a blank from scratch and i'm more than confident it will be one heck of a pistol when finished ! i'll keep you all posted.