Originally Posted by
GoexBlackhorn
T/C knows most everyone uses sabots. They otherwise know that mainly the remaining few that don't use sabots, use Powerbelts.
What goes-on inside messageboards like this one is such a small fraction of muzzleloader shooter representation. (For example) Probably 98% of muzzleloader hunters have no idea that heavy conicals work in fast twist rifles and those T/C QLAs affect performance with old-school conicals. These hunters of today haven't a clue about that.
Why did they choose T/C instead of Knight or Traditions?..... because of that QLA and how it makes it easier to load bullets.
When T/C owners shoot and miss that deer, they don;t blame their inaccuracy on the QLA. They blame it on themselves for a poor aim or either on the bullet or powder they chose. They haven't a clue that they missed that deer because of the QLA and their choice of using a T/C Maxiball conical, which BTW, is hardly ever seen anymore. Everyone seems to use sabots, Powerbelts (inlines) or roundballs in traditional sidelocks.
Old-school conicals are going the way of the dinosaur. No doubt about it and it changes nothing in T/Cs lineup of guns and how they address the QLA at the muzzle. If you call T/C by phone, they will recommend sabots or Powerbelts. They will even prove they are more accurate at the 100 yard mark.
So test the QLA till the next blue moon. The amount of shooters that these QLA threads affect are so few and far between. Like talking to a bus-group of 100 oldtimers at a baseball game where 40,000 are in attendance. Sorta parallels to the approx 100 threads we saw in 2015 on Lehigh bullets here. For a bullet brand that only represents a fraction of 1% of the market.... perhaps as little as 0.05% of muzzleloader sales globally, I am so glad those Sabotloader and Grouse Lehigh promotions have ceased.
There was no doubt in my mind that a bullet push occurred to boost sales.... all driven by people associated by/with/ associated with Lehigh. Grouse not coming back to this board after his timeout recently, is OK with me.
So you stated that the Lehigh ML bullets represent a super tiny fraction of sales, yet you think a couple folks that like them and shoot them recommending them on a message board that is dead half the time is going to make a difference in their sales? I don't think so.
The QLA issue is widely known, certainly its more well known with folks that are avid enthusiasts - that spend time tinkering with and researching ML's outside of a few days a year during ML season. Many manufacturers have their quirks, not only TC and the QLA.
For what its worth, I'm a fan of the QLA concept. Unfortunate that not all of them are good to go.