Bought 2 cans a week or 2 ago. Dang stuff is expensive! Have those new ones come up on the market yet? May try the 180's for her. Don't want to go TOO light with the 160's. The deer over here are pretty good sized so she will need some thump. She hammered a big bodied buck this past year with those 220gr Bloodlines out of my TC Hawken with a GM barrel but until I get some more MMP Orange sabots I can't see if she can use them in that tight bored Impact. Those 220 BL's are .458's. Tom sent me a boat load of them with that rifle. Hey, worse comes to worse I can always load them up in the SOCOM cases and destroy some hogs