Originally Posted by Ridge Runner

not sure where the wad goes, but I can guarantee you I will kill every gobbler I shoot at, at 50 yards with my valmet 412 and a load of federal 2 oz. 6's been doing it since 84 when I had Mark Bansner work it over. farthest one ever taken was a gobbler in the fall at 76 steps, skinned out the head and neck just to see how it did, found 16 #6's in just the head and neck.
RR