I agree, what should be a sharing of experiences and ideas usually ends up with pride squabbles. But there are still enough good threads here to keep me coming back. I have never really been an experimenter with loads- I find my 100 yard load and just keep practicing with it. But I do like knowing whats out there as far as new bullets and guns. One day my estimated 500 noslers will run out and I will be looking for my new load. Semi- you are always a bright spot on this forum and never fail to get a chuckle out of me when I read your threads.