I have recently bought a CVA Optima, and a Wolf. IMHO CVA is now at the head of the pack. Great, accurate muzzleloaders, at a reasonable price. I was for years a T/C guy. Still own many T/C's. In fact my favorite muzzleloader is a T/C Firehawk, which I bought new in the mid 1990's. However, since T/C has been sold ( I won't mention the acquiring company) quality, and service has gone down hill. Very happy with my CVA muzzleloaders !