i ll put my money on the impact i've got one & has a 1 x 4 bushnell cicle x scope love it dearly great set up shoots as good as my bone collector but does have more of a kick to it liter & does not have the flex tech energy burners. one 1 problem i have with the impact is the cci 209 mag primers have a problem sticking in the primer pocket & i use bh209 they start to stick after about the 4th shot. i'm really interested in the new strike which is the ldr muzzleloader. i'm also interested in buying a traditions 30 ldr vortex striker fire the one that is hammer less