Originally Posted by
super_hunt54
And really RR, who in the hell takes a 30/30 out to 300 yards? Noone with any sense! Since it is a cartridge designed for lever guns and for 200 yards max. You are trying to compare apples to watermelons there. And you also made my point for me in your shooting script as well. You wait for a shot that AVOIDS shoulder because you KNOW that that cartridge isn't up to snuff. I don't think I nor anyone else on here said it wouldn't kill a deer. We are all saying it is not a cartridge for an inexperienced shooter that doesn't have the patience or the experience to wait for that tiny shot window that a more seasoned hunter (that knows he is using a weak cartridge) will wait for.
The cartridge isn't weak, I use that shot because I use a fragile bullet because I have a dozen cases of them, with good bullets if you clip the shoulder its no big deal.
a bad shot is a bad shot reguardless of what cartridge its fired from, inexperience is not the fault of the rifle or bullet, and your the same group who will chant "a bigger gun won't make up for poor shooting"
new hunters have to learn, some can learn from what others tell them, some must experience it for themselves, some go through life never trying things because they have themselves convinced it won't work.
RR