Not the bigest bodied deer I' ve ever shot but he had prety nice horns . Probably a 1 1/2 year old . He came off of public land . I was up for 7 days and saw deer every day . I used vortec minmax 75 grain heads and they did a great job . Think I' ll stick with them for awhile . All the guys up there use them . While I was in town they shot a 23 3/4 spred 14 point and a 18 inch 12 point .