I've owned & shot 7mm08s for YEARS and in MY opinion, the 7mm08 is THE most perfect all-round whitetail cartridge ever designed! The 7mm08 is at it's best with quality 139-140 gr bullet loads such as Nosler or the like. Usually extremely accurate, and the recoil is so mild my daughter used 1 when she started out deer hunting at the ripe old age of 11 and got both 1 shot clean kills!