Sorry Bronko, I view CVA in the same light that I do Mathews. Both companies "claim" innovation yet there isn't a single thing they produce that isn't a direct copy of someone else's work. They both shirk patent laws and get away with it. Irks me to no end. Cheap steel, no testing of the barrels, horrible triggers, weak hammer springs (TC is bad about that too though).
As far as post S&W takeover, I am 100% in agreement. I have been hearing some pretty horrible stories of the quality control over there now. Or at least the first few years after the takeover. Marlin went through that crap after 64 for about 20 some odd years. Hence why a pre 64 Marlin will fetch a premium.