Well I'd have to say you guys are spot on from my experience this morning. Ha. Shot a nanny about 100 yards away with a 4570 quartering in to me from her bedding area. Put the cross hairs on her & fired. I knew I hit her, but the shot looked high so I waited about an hour and a half in the stand. Got down to go look for blood and there was none on the ground, not even speckles. I went the direction she ran & there she was, maybe 10 to 15 yards from where I shot her. It was a definite gut shot. Couldn't believe she didn't run further than that!