Well Old Bob, your statement that you consider hunting with round ball less than .600 to be unethical, also says that you consider anyone who hunts with patched round balls less than .600 unethical hunters, even though you said it "nicely." I take exception to that! I have hunted with patched round balls since 1980 and have had great success with them over the years. I do not have a track record of wounding deer. I have used patched round balls from .445 - .575 and all of the standard calibers in between for all of these years. I will admit that patched round balls are not a 200 yard bullet but at moderate ranges (10 - 75 yards) they are very accurate and kill quickly and cleanly. I make this statement, not from something that I read out of a magazine but from personal experience. I know that there are those of you who can quote all kinds of ballistic data from charts but deer don't read charts. The only deer that I have ever shot with a .445 round ball. went down like I had hit him in the head with a baseball bat. The last deer that I shot was with a .570 round ball and he ran 35 yards and crashed. No matter what a hunter chooses as a tool to hunt with, he/she must know the limitations of the equipment that they are using and must also know their own personal limitations and place that shot exactly where it needs to go. That is what an ethical hunter does. Those who will take a marginal shot at game with any gun, bow or bullet combination are unethical hunters. It is personally insulting to me that you would lump all of us who hunt with patched round ball into the unethical hunter group.