Yep, according to the Triple Seven and BH 209 advocates none of the APP powders are any good. Every time someone says something good about a gun, bullet or powder some others just have to chime in and say the product is no good.

After firing at least fifteen pounds each of JSG, Goex Pinnacle (2F and 3F) and Black MZ, i like them all. My three longest muzzleloader shots on deer and hogs were made using JSG. Longest shot was a hog at a measured 226 yards.

i don't care what your test "results" were or whether or not you like the APP powders. i like the stuff. Sorry you could not make it work. You use whatever you want to use and i'll do the same.

This forum has gotten very hateful in the past several years, too many people get butt hurt too easily. i don't come here much anymore.

These folks tested Black MZ powder. No mention of clumping or moisture.

http://www.namlhunt.com/mlpowders2.html