OH yeah the crap has gone on for too long, The scientists have proved prions are in urine and feces, some of the research was posted here, however we have someone with a vested interest in denial at least one, probably with two screen names maintaining with a vested interest and another denying it for whatever reason. Now the people here can believe what the research has shown and the research has been going on for quite some time, or you can believe those who have a vested interest in maintaining falsehoods. I have been around those doing the research and those using it. What I have learned living in a state that is over run with captive deer breeders is they do not want to be held to rules, they want to do whatever they want to do and they do just that. That is the reason they lobbied the general assembly to take control of them away from an agency that held their feet to the fire when they didn't obey the rules and give the responsibility to the dept of ag, who would rather look the other way and help them cover up what they are doing in the movement of animals around for breeding. They got what they want, the hunters and others in the state who enjoy deer took one in the back of the head. I wouldn't believe a captive deer or elk breeder if they were standing on a stack of bibles because I have seen what they have done and will continue to do. Yep I have a interest and that is a healthy wild deer herd. I and others have posted just a small amount of published research, you can read it and digest it or you can believe those who do not want you to know the dangers of captive deer farming. Would I like to see captive whitetail deer farming ended, you bet because I do not trust those doing it and I do not trust the dept of ag I have also seen their laxness and the caviler way they do business. Do yourselves a favor and do the research yourself, it isn't difficult to find, don't take the word of those who posted research if that will give you more confidence, just keep in mind, the only thing those so fervently denying the correlation between captive deer herds and CWD haven't provided anything but lip service and expect you to buy into it. Doesn't that strike you as suspicious?