As Super Hunt54 has stated,and i feel the same way,why do you need such hard bullets for deer????? Barnes and Swift cost so much by the time you find a load thats accurate your broke,at the price of them!!!!
I've shot lots of deer in 55 years of hunting. They have been taken with pure soft lead,as in cast bullets and plain old jacketed ones in all sorts of rifles!
They have been shot at close range and as far away as 200 yards,with plain old bullets and dropped dead!
Can anyone come up with a good reason to use these?