We're not in Germany MC and you're making incorrect statements! Animals, unless they are enclosed within a legal game proof high fence here in the states, are not owned by the land owner. If they are low fenced or have no fence and they outfit their private property or lease it to an outfitter, they still have to abide by state and Federal game laws. If they have legally accessible public land within their deeded property they have no right to stop the public from hunting on it and that was the case that I mentioned in my previous post about the outfitter being warned to quit harassing people on that legal BLM land. Flags is talking about a completely different scenario where it's all public land that's controlled by either the USFS or BLM Federal agencies. They fully control those lands and anyone who is going to make a profit from them has to go through the proper channels and apply for and receive the necessary permits before they can outfit on that land. That permit does not give them the right to keep anyone else from hunting DIY, but just like in my scenario a lot of them think they own the land and try to bluff people off of it. With the Modern GPS equipment and now even the fancy phones people have that can load maps into them and have GPS capabilities, there is no reason for a person to trespass on private property unless they do it intentionally. It's a fact that all the GWs in Wyoming for the last few years are equipped with Garmin GPS units with landowner chips and they use them to settle disputes and possibly write trespass tickets based on them because they are accurate within 20' or less. Marking an X on a map nowadays to say you were at such and such a spot would have you laughed right out of court. Furthermore, your comment about wilderness areas is way off base, as not even state or Federal employees are allowed to access those other than on foot or by horseback. They can't even take a chainsaw in them to cut trails open and have to use hand saws and axes. In a designated wilderness area here in the states it's so strict that you can't even take a game cart into them. Your mentioning of a person that owns a tract of land at the mouth of a canyon and thinks it allows them full control of the rest of the property may do just that. If that land beyond the part they own is not legally accessible by any route other than through their property, they don't have to give access to anyone to go through their place to get to it. That, in effect, legally landlocks that property and there are millions of acres of public land like that, mostly in the western states. I won't even get into what is called "corner jumping", since that can go either way depending on what jurisdiction is handling the matter where it might occur.
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