nub...you don' t even know my father, i am a much bigger hunter than he is, you could say hes invested the money but definatly not the time, in the 20 years hes been hunting hes only shot like 5-6 bucks and only one of them is decent it wasn' t even really a wallhanger, i' m not trying to talk bad about him or anything.... i' m not saying i' m going to shoot some forkhorn or something i' m saying if i see a decent looking buck maybe even a decent 6-7 point i might shoot it, i' m not strickly hunting for wall hangers... plus this year i already shot 2 does but gave away the meat to the needy because i' m planning on keeping the buck i shoot, kinda regret giving both of them away but oh well, anyway now that its gun season on saturday i' m not going to shoot a smaller buck probably, i' ll go for a more bigger one, i was just making a point that at this point in my life with sports and school going on and not being able to hunt ALL the time that my time is precious and i might only see a few bucks a year, and i already missed a wall hanger..makes me sick, that was the first buck i' d seen all year, and i' ve only seen one more since.. an decent 7 point, i don' t wan' t those little tiny things especially since were in this herd reduction zone. So thats more to the story.