Triple Se7en, I am just an average Joe American MLer that rarely, if ever, takes a shot on game beyond 150 yards with my inline. Hell it's a rarity if it's more than 70 yards around where I hunt. But I still take an interest in these bullets. May want to take the old smoke pole out for some Elk next year and want a good bullet that will perform well at 200 yards as well as close range.