Salty, for decades PA was not killing enough deer and there was widespread areas across the state with terrible browse lines, particularly in the big woods counties. Every time the biologists asked for more doe licenses to be issued the hunters would go nuts and whine and cry and go to the legislature who would threaten the PGC with certain actions if they issued more doe licenses and the board of commissioners would not have the guts to do the right thing and allow more doe to be taken. Finally, there came a board who had toe courage to do what should have been done decades ago and issued a lot more doe licenses to cut back the herd. In fact a person could now get 3 doe licenses where in the ast you could only get one. After a few years the herd started to be reduced enough to allow the habitat to recover in some areas. Hunters who grew up being able to go into the woods and sit on a stump and kill a deer with no problem, suddenly had to start actually hunting deer and again the cry went up, we are destroying the deer herd, they are almost extinct and a lot of other knee jerk nonsense. The problem is, a couple of generations of hunters thought having too many deer was the way it was supposed to be and didn't like it when hunting became hunting instead of just killing. The fight goes on today. Some areas had the licenses reduced a little because the habitat was showing good signs of recovery and some had the number of license reduced because of social preasure. The bottom line is, they just didn't and don't or refuse to understand that if we go back to the very restrictive numbers on doe licenses, all the habitat recovery will be undone in a very short period of time because the population of deer will skyrocket again and we will be back to square one. Had the boards of commissioners decades ago done their job and listened to the wildlife managers instead of pandering to hunters and legislators the drastic action in reduction, would not hae been necessary. It was so bad, that the biologist who was asked to take on the deer management position by the board of commissioners with the promise that they would support him no matter how bad things got, was recieving death threats and wore bady armor when he taveled around the state. When the board broke their promise to him and started to cave in to the presure from hunters and the legislators pandering to them, the biologist resigned and retired. Deer management has always been a contentious issue in PA.