For the T/C plains rifle the muzzle loader I bought just for the purpose of putting a scope on I installed a T/C take down mount with a old Weaver K4 fixed 4 power I got at a yard sale for $5.00.It has worked flawless for going on 30 years now. I also have one on a 22 rim fire I found at a pawn shop for $10.00 after the guy figured no one was going to pay him $50.00 for it.

Al