ORIGINAL: Rangeball
How was dinner?
Very good Thank You. Twas a good night for Bacon & Eggs w/ Toast & Peach Jelly. I cook a mean breakfast if I do say so myself
Jeff, I' d be interested in hearing some of those thoughts. After BT Kevin' s comments on the ' 04 Pat being almost as smooth as the liberty, I looked at the paper- Both 33" ata (axle this time ) 1/2" difference in brace. Assuming the 80# liberty does 15 fps more than the 70# numbers Kevin posted, their performance is about identical.
Well, first of all I' m assuming what you meant is that the same arrow weight is used for an 80 pound Liberty as compared to a 70 pound Pat SC. At say 5 grains per pound, the Pat SC will still be the faster bow, apples to apples. I think you should compare grains per pound...not X arrow weight in grains out of a 70 pound and the same arrow weight out of another bow @ 80. I' m sure that IF I shot a 80 pound Liberty w/ a 350 grain arrow it would exceed the 70 pound Pat SC' s IBO speed by a pretty big margin. The BT cams are super efficient the lighter the arrow gets
As to Kevin' s comments. He should know..he designed them
I have not even shot them yet. I' ve heard how the new I-cam is smoother and quicker and what they did to obtain that improvement. Were the Liberty not available, I would be shooting another I-cam bow on a Patriot or whatever else. But even if the Pat SC is an 8 for smooth draw, and the Liberty is only a 9, I wanted the smoother bow for reasons I' ll go into below.
Was there something(s) specific about that made you choose the Freedom over the Infinity?
Absolutely. The smoother draw force curve,and the advice of someone whom I trust 110% who has shot the bow in question already
I' ve been looking for the right 80 pounder for a few years, and after some discussion, I felt I finally may have the smooth drawing/shooting 80 pounder with the specs I want. I' ve tried some other cam designs at 80 pounds and it was a definite " not for me" experience. After asking some " tough" questions, I came away satisfied that the Liberty would most likely fit the bill.
Personally I also prefer the larger idler wheel. It better matches the size of the cam for better nock travel, and also creates the " illusion" of a longer axle to axle bow in the feel department (greater string angle). While I don' t have a prob with the smaller idler on the I-cam bows and nock travel has not been an issue for me because I know how to avoid any problems it may cause, I still prefer the larger version because of the string angle issue.
In the end, I hope to be able to draw both and come to my own conclusions
As well you should