hubel458

The one legal for shotgun we mostlytalk about is 24ga that weighs ten lbs.

Gun is marked 24ga, fires 24 ga cases, plastic or brass, cases
marked 24 ga. The more p[owerful 585 HE case I don't promote
for shotgun areas. I never have for shotgun areas.

And guys in TX and FL shot couple deer with lighter 585HE in NEF
break actions with lighter Minie bullets, loaded down,
going slower, about like power of 58cal ML loaded heavy with Minie bullet.
Fun way to hunt, Big bores way much more fun than peashooters.

Example;
We use the 12ga NEF Ultra above for deer hunting, lengthen chamber
in its heavy barrel to use 3.5" cases and get double the energy, with brass
cases, all legal for shotgun only and still manageable to shoot.
Weighs about 11 lbs. Still get 50% more energy with 3.5" plastic cases.

But if a guy takes that NEF and adds 10-15lbs, or puts on a tripod, or
a Aimpoint sight, or paints it purple, or puts on muzzle brake, adds a
$2000 scope, or hangs flashlight under the barrel, etc;
It is still a legal shotgun for shotgun only deer hunting everywhere,
no matter how game wardens, naysayers, smallgun folks feel.. ED