Ok I'll try to post this again, I have a 338 fed. It's a sako 85 ss. I think the 160 barnes loaded per barnes data at 2900 fps is the perfect white tail deer, black bear, and caribou round. It hits hard and does a very good job on game. The 200's although not really hard on the shoulder lets you know you have pulled the trigger, I find the 160s very pleasant to shoot