I was wandering around a nearby sporting goods store and discovered a used Knight Disc Elite (I think is was an elite) in 45 cal. I know some of you really like Knight products and others "covet" a 45. I didn't buy it and have no connection to the store but if any of you are interested you could PM me and I would reply with the name and phone number of the store and you can take it from there. If I remember correctly it was stainless.