I ended up getting the 4-12x50 VXR in the duplex firedot. I am very pleased looking through the scope and the firedot is pretty cool. I look forward to getting it mounted on my Colt until my 6.8 is finished. They didn't have the x40 that I wanted that come with cds, so I got it at the same price plus matched what I found. Needless to say, I got the scope I wanted at a very very reasonable price. Now my question is doesn't the cds work very every scope? I thought it would but the dealer explained it differently and I don't understand. Not that I really need the cds but thought it would be cool to have because the shooting ranges around me have some fairly long ranges and I do like to shoot out at distance when I can. Anyway thanks for the suggestions but in the end I love what I purchased.