OK I surrender. I'm calling it quits and say the deer won. (whatever deer are around). I'm heading to FL and not coming back until the spring thaw. But this year I'm taking my .58 and hope to go on a hog hunt. I'm also going to take my Win 94 in 32 Spl. But the .58 is going to get the first crack. When and if I do get out I will post some pics.