Okay oldtimr. im going to put it nice. i just dropped 2000 on gear. i dont have the money to drop another 2 or 300$ on a stand. so what i figure. is if i go out and start getting used to the area and get used to seeing signs of deer, ill have a better chance of getting one when i have a stand. if i put up a stand, and there are no sign of deer im not ganna get one anyway. so if you dont have anything nice to say or add to the conversation, why dont you just stay out of my forums? im trying to LEARN. im NEW. i wish i could spell it out a little better for you, but i really cant.

As for the rest of you that are helping me, i really appreciate it. and im taking everything everyone else is saying and im putting it to use. Thank you so much. its nice to just be out in the woods enjoying a day. learning new things. i enjoy the hunt, just like i enjoy fishing. Even if i dont catch anything, just spending the day outside doing what i enjoy is a win for me. of course id love to land an 8 or 10 point buck. who wouldnt? and honestly i wish i could repay every one of you who are being patient and helping me. Thank you all.